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Reptiles are losing because they have no easy moral high ground

easy nonreligious moral high ground, that is Libs/progres...
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TCR There is moral support behind conservative positions,...
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True, but when you consider that people can easily be electe...
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180 dat key neckbeard demographic deciding elections #...
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lol. I'm a shitlib, and I remember thinking the exact thing ...
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This is a good point, I think I actually thought some simila...
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best of luck with your efforts getting people to comprehend ...
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that's mostly a factual matter
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link to peer reviewed articles on innate lack inferiority?
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this topic has been covered extensively here
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There are philosophical "heuristics" that are also...
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hey fucklaw: http://imgur.com/zXx13tc
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yeah that moral authority really working out for dems you fu...
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Date: November 13th, 2014 3:53 AM
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easy nonreligious moral high ground, that is

Libs/progressives have the universalist holiness competition down pat. First-order utilitarian calculations where all humans are equivalent are reasonably convincing to most people, and they're hard to argue against.

How could you be against immigration--isn't it unfair to people who happen to have been born in a shitty country? Isn't it pro-freedom to open the borders? Aren't you racist to prefer your own people/culture?

You're a bad person if you think there are innate differences between groups of people (and sometimes even if you think there are cultural differences). Therefore, how can you be against measures like AA and disparate impact that are designed to reduce intergroup inequality? Don't you know about white privilege?

Don't you think we need to reduce the gap in pay between women and men? etc.

In contrast, conservative arguments have traditionally relied upon tradition and religion. In the modern world where tradition and religion are in steep decline, most conservatives are left with no way to respond to these liberal arguments. How can conservatives ever win in this environment?

Neoreactionaries have been working on developing moral reasoning and arguments that respond to the liberal arguments, but the liberal arguments are almost always simpler because they rely on certain easy but incorrect assumptions. Even if the neoreactionaries are more reality-based, the simplicity and shorter time orientation of the liberal model allows liberals to claim greater holiness.

(note that I don't want to imply that all liberal ideas are less moral than all conservative ideas, just that the liberal side has plenty of wrong ideas that nevertheless appear to most people to be more moral)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#26706973)



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Date: November 13th, 2014 3:56 AM
Author: Scott Frost

TCR

There is moral support behind conservative positions, but it is not easily digested.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#26706977)



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Date: November 13th, 2014 4:08 AM
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True, but when you consider that people can easily be elected in 47% of this country by being racist and or overtly-religious, who fucking cares. Win a handful of neckbeards and bam, majority.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#26706979)



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Date: November 13th, 2014 4:15 AM
Author: """''''"''''


180

dat key neckbeard demographic deciding elections

#gamergate ftw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#26706981)



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Date: November 13th, 2014 4:26 AM
Author: ,.,;,;,.;,.;,.;,,.,;,.,;

lol. I'm a shitlib, and I remember thinking the exact thing about shitcons in 2004.

the fact is that when you're in a mostly unpopular coalition, you have the tendency to think that you're simply more enlightened. a common trope I remember is that republicans were good at generating soundbites, and that progressivism was too complex to whittle down to an ad.

of course the situations seemed to reverse in the last ten years.

thanks for a good laugh though, always fun to hear the other side

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#26706992)



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Date: November 13th, 2014 4:29 AM
Author: """''''"''''


This is a good point, I think I actually thought some similar things as you in 2004.

We might be able to agree that on certain issues the conservative side it more accessible while on other things the liberal side is. In particular, back then the pro-military, pro-security at all costs side seemed easier to promote. Are you going to be on the side of protecting Americans, or not? This is probably still true today.

On the other hand, the universalism that is the most fundamental aspect of progressivism is inherently simplistic and morally accessible, while I don't regard neoconnery as anywhere near the core of conservatism--even if it was the top issue for a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#26706994)



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Date: November 13th, 2014 5:17 PM
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Date: November 13th, 2014 10:26 PM
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Date: November 14th, 2014 3:46 PM
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Date: November 14th, 2014 3:50 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,..,..,.,:,:,..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,.


best of luck with your efforts getting people to comprehend the complex morality of "blacks are innately inferior" i guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#26716767)



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Date: November 14th, 2014 3:54 PM
Author: """''''"''''


that's mostly a factual matter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#26716787)



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Date: November 14th, 2014 4:00 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,..,..,.,:,:,..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,.


link to peer reviewed articles on innate lack inferiority?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#26716826)



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Date: November 14th, 2014 4:05 PM
Author: """''''"''''


this topic has been covered extensively here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#26716852)



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Date: November 14th, 2014 4:21 PM
Author: LathamTouchedMe

There are philosophical "heuristics" that are also beneficial for conservatives. In surveys, Americans have consistently viewed the federal government and its potential infringement on liberty as a bigger threat than wall street or big business. This has resulted in less regulation and gun control relative to other first-world nations.

Americans believe you should keep what you earn. In polls, when asked what the top marginal rate should be, most give a number that is much lower than the current rate. This has resulted in a tax regime that is largely favorable to the wealthy relative to the past and to other first-world countries.

Progressives can't develop policy in the U.S. because they are fighting against an American political philosophy that is antagonistic towards government. Perhaps more so than ever before. They've made progress in some areas but in others they have lost ground.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#26716931)



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Date: November 14th, 2014 5:33 PM
Author: guy dragging douglas fir through apartment hallway

hey fucklaw: http://imgur.com/zXx13tc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#26717334)



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Date: November 14th, 2014 6:28 PM
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Date: April 3rd, 2015 5:21 AM
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Date: September 26th, 2017 12:52 PM
Author: AYD

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#34300333)



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Date: September 26th, 2017 12:55 PM
Author: Shitvoters elect Shitliberals, Randy

Savage bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#34300354)



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Date: September 26th, 2017 12:57 PM
Author: meatus



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Date: September 26th, 2017 12:55 PM
Author: Maori woman performing defiant haka

yeah that moral authority really working out for dems you fucking cultists

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#34300363)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 1:50 PM
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tbf I think you're misreading my very unclear post. My point was really that simplicity was on the Dem side even though they're wrong, and this makes them hard to argue against. Now that the anti-whiteness has really ramped up it's easier though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2726413&forum_id=2#34425929)