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CCW holder kills would be robber in Chicago. Shitlibs and family ir8.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/0...
Midnight Cowboy
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"His Facebook page shows him in a suit and tie proudly ...
Donald Trump proudly presenting his signed pardon
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good kid, didn't do nothing, etc
Midnight Cowboy
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deacon nothing, tbf.
Donald Trump proudly presenting his signed pardon
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Midnight Cowboy
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lol wtf is this http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/01...
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dindu-rag nuffin
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bowlcut autist
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i never get how you can get so late in life and STILL think ...
pepito
  11/02/15
That photo isn't even recent. If you click to the FB page it...
Get Thee To The Rapery
  11/02/15
shitlibs: "but it was Halloween Day!"
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hank_scorpio
  11/02/15
He was just slutting it up! Still not asking for it!
CapTTTainFalcon
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"They show he had been arrested at least half a dozen t...
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shortquotemo
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7 arrests, 4 for property crimes and 3 for drugs?
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A ROBBERY SUSPECT IS DET
jonnyBlaze
  11/02/15
benzo fuming
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a few of the rhetorical tricks at work there. 1. poison t...
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b-b-but TAMIR RICE!!!
Metal Up Your Ass
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pepito
  11/02/15
Well done
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sealclubber
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Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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bannondood
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Well done
shortquotemo
  11/02/15
So is Halloween "Purge Day" now where anything goe...
Get Thee To The Rapery
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Its a traditional part of Urban Black Culture to pull prank ...
animeboi
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shortquotemo
  11/02/15
jfc. look at this "journalist"'s other articles. ...
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This guy and Rachel Feltman are the bane of my Post-reading ...
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Pro tip: stop reading that shitrag
shortquotemo
  11/02/15
180
Shitvoters elect Shitliberals, Randy
  11/02/15
this is why you can't trust shitlibs, ljl "he should...
hank_scorpio
  11/02/15
*adopts shitlib protocols* *reasonably believes the bad g...
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  11/02/15
Just shoot his hand and he won't be able to shoot the gun.
Lemma Time
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlastingItOutOfTh...
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To be fair, there are probably some extremely limited circum...
Chaebong Hung
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because it was and a sniper isn't exactly relevant to a defe...
hank_scorpio
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cr. some cop sniper who was a military sniper and who had 15...
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Yeah, I can't imagine a situation where a CCW shooter would ...
Chaebong Hung
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*activates magic laser arm thingy that goes up, immediately ...
hank_scorpio
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tbf, anyone with decent aim could shoot the gun out of his h...
Henry Aaron
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(shitlib who has never fired a gun)
animeboi
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http://youtu.be/BVnwkDbeARw
Chaebong Hung
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i know, right? just go into VATS and aim for the weapon. ...
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but QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN RAISED. and a FIERY DEBATE HAS BE...
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(George Soros)
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this is objective, neutral reporting? "The inciden...
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BUMP FOR LIBS
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Libs are against conceal carry because they don't want white...
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Date: November 2nd, 2015 12:49 PM
Author: Midnight Cowboy (i basically watch jeopardy some nights and cooking shows on pbs)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/02/concealed-gun-owner-fatally-shoots-suspected-robber-during-chicago-stick-up/

On Saturday evening, a man wearing a mask walked into a South Side Chicago bodega, pulled out a gun and announced a robbery.

As the robber pointed his gun at the store’s employees, however, a customer pulled out his own gun.

The robber’s gun, it turns out, was fake.

The customer’s was not.

Now the robbery suspect is dead, gunned down by the concealed-weapon-toting customer.

The case is the latest in a string of incidents across the country in which bystanders have pulled out their concealed weapons and used them against suspected criminals. Some cases have drawn heavy scrutiny, such as an Oct. 6 incident at a Home Depot near Detroit when a woman with a concealed weapons permit fired at fleeing shoplifters. She was charged with recklessly using her handgun.

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A shoplifter sprinted across the blacktop of a Home Depot near Detroit on Oct. 6, pushing a cart full of stolen goods worth more than $1,000. After this surveillance footage was shot, a bystander pulled out a gun and fired shots at the suspect. (Facebook/Auburn Hills Police Department)

[‘Worst nightmare': Woman with concealed gun permit shoots at fleeing shoplifter outside Home Depot]

In Saturday’s shooting, however, police have said the customer had a valid concealed carry license and that charges against him “do not appear likely,” according to the Chicago Tribune.

Nonetheless, the Chicago shooting is also raising questions, primarily from the family of the robbery suspect, Reginald Gildersleeve.

“Something doesn’t seem right,” said Igbinosa Oronsaye, whose mother married Gildersleeve three years ago. “He didn’t deserve to get shot multiple times.”

The incident is all the more mysterious because it occurred on Halloween and involved a man in a mask with a fake gun. Various law enforcement individuals told the Tribune that the gun was either a toy or a paintball gun.

Oronsaye told ABC7 that Gildersleeve was a former employee of the store and knew the owner well.

Was the shooting a Halloween prank gone horribly wrong?

Police don’t think so. They believe Gildersleeve actually was trying to rob the store when the customer, feeling threatened by a masked man waving what appeared to be a real gun, opened fire.

That explanation is bolstered by Gildersleeve’s “lengthy” arrest history, including at least one robbery, a Chicago police spokesman told the Tribune.

Either way, the shooting marked a strange end to a seemingly contradictory life.

Gildersleeve, 55, was a tall and powerfully built man with a strong jaw and a beaming smile. His Facebook page shows him in a suit and tie proudly posing with his wife in one arm and a Bible in the other. He often posted photos of his family, including a grandson.

Court records, however, reveal another side of Gildersleeve. They show he had been arrested at least half a dozen times dating back to the 1980s. Several arrests had to do with narcotics, but most of the incidents involved theft or robbery. He was in and out of prison, with burglary convictions as recent as 2005.

From his Facebook page, it appears as if Gildersleeve tried to turn his life around. He got married, posted inspirational photos and quotes, and once wrote a lengthy tribute to God and the redemptive power of grace.

“Love is that force that uplifts and inspires mankind,” he wrote a year ago, adding “It can lift a wretched human being from the miry clay of despair and set feet upon the solid rock respectability and service.”

Ultimately, however, it seems Gildersleeve’s old life overtook his new one. And on Saturday night, as candy-hungry children donned costumes and took to Chicago’s streets, Gildersleeve donned a mask of his own — but for very different reasons.

At around 7 p.m., Gildersleeve edged his broad frame through the door of a Mexican bodega in Gage Park, a neighborhood in southwest Chicago. He then pulled out a realistic-looking handgun and pointed it at the store’s employees, demanding money, police told the Tribune and the Associated Press.

As Gildersleeve allegedly tried to rob the bodega, a customer inside the store pulled out his concealed weapon and shot the would-be robber several times, including at least once in the chest, police told the Tribune. Gildersleeve was pronounced dead at 7:10 p.m., the newspaper reported, citing the medical examiner’s office.

Unlike the Oct. 6 shooting at the Home Depot near Detroit, however, authorities appear to believe the bystander was justified in his use of force.

Police have referred the case to the Cook County state’s attorney’s office to “determine if there’s any reason to charge” the 44-year-old male shooter, a police spokesman told the Tribune. But charges were not filed Sunday and “do not appear likely,” Chicago police said in a statement.

[Mich. woman who shot at fleeing shoplifters is charged with reckless use of a handgun]

America’s long-simmering debate over gun control and concealed weapons boiled over last month after an Oct. 1 mass shooting at a community college in Oregon. After the incident, in which a lone gunman killed nine other people and then himself, many gun rights advocates and several GOP presidential candidates argued that the massacre could have been prevented had the victims been armed.

Saturday’s shooting appears to have stoked that fiery debate once more.

Oronsaye suggested Gildersleeve could have been apprehended without being killed and appeared to call for charges against the shooter with the concealed weapon.

“Some people don’t actually know how to use guns,” he told the Tribune. “They go to firing ranges, but it’s not the same as a bullet going into someone’s body, it’s not the same as a bullet going into flesh. They should be able to wound first, kill next. He didn’t deserve to get shot multiple times.

“You just took a brother, you just took a father from a lot of people. Somebody’s got to answer for that.”

Some online commenters agreed.

“The shooter should be arrested and tried for murder,” one wrote. “A conceal carry doesn’t give you the right to act all Wyatt Earp. He wasn’t in danger.”

Many others, however, sprang to the defense of the shooter.

“You can’t know that a gun is real or not when someone points one at you,” one wrote.

“He deserved to die,” added another, “and sorry but when you are saving lives and protecting yourself you shoot to kill.”

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72Skins

12:48 PM EST

Ole Reggie on the streets, trying to get his eats, with his suit and stocking cap, walking round giving dap, Reggie knew he couldn't do right, and someone shot him out of sight.

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Genenco

12:48 PM EST

“Something doesn’t seem right,” said Igbinosa Oronsaye, whose mother married Gildersleeve three years ago. “He didn’t deserve to get shot multiple times.”

Actually yes he deserved getting shot.

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ejhickey

12:47 PM EST

Anyone who feels sorry for the dead guy and his "family" is free to send flowers and a donation for his funeral. Otherwise the other family members might be forced to go out and commit other crimes in order to afford the funeral. Make sure you contribute enough for the "Reggies Dead" after funeral party.

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Anti_Socialist

12:47 PM EST

If Chicago were serious about black lives that matter, it would distribute those 10K guns it confiscates each year to poor residents with clean records with the requirement that they carry them at all times.

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orangemtl

12:42 PM EST [Edited]

Nonetheless, the Chicago shooting is also raising questions, primarily from the family of the robbery suspect, Reginald Gildersleeve.

“Something doesn’t seem right,” said Igbinosa Oronsaye, whose mother married Gildersleeve three years ago. “He didn’t deserve to get shot multiple times.”

She's right: He deserved one well-placed round through his head.

What a typically nonsensical statement by the family member, with ongoing passive aggressive support by WaPo.

Pull a gun on someone to rob them? ANy and EVERYthing that happens to you thereafter is your own fault.

If more people in Chicago had CCW permits, it'd be a better place. Don't presume to lecture me about the city; I lived there for 50 years and was robbed on the way to buy groceries in the 1980's. My current community has among the highest rates of CCW holders in the nation. Walk-in robberies like this one, and home invasions almost NEVER happen.

Wonder why.

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Giedi Prime

12:48 PM EST

The bodega owner didn't deserve to be terrified by someone doing their best to convince them they were having a gun pointed at them.

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FreddyFlyntstone

12:42 PM EST

If he had a clean record then I would say it could be a stupid prank. But with his criminal history he was asking for it.

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William P Murphy

12:42 PM EST

Gildersleeve experienced change he can believe in from the armed citizen?

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Gail78

12:42 PM EST

In hindsight shooting may not have been the best option, but it was a valid, reasonable option given the circumstances. That's why robbery is such a serious and dangerous crime. It doesn't always go "right." You can't know how someone will react (or how a bystander will react) when you attempt to victimize them. Under any laws I know of, you can use deadly force in defense of yourself or another when they're the victim of a forcible felony.

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Giedi Prime

12:43 PM EST

In fact if Mr. Gildersleeve had an accomplice, also armed with a fake gun, he might now be up on felony murder charges for Mr. Gildersleeve's death.

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Anti_Socialist

12:48 PM EST

Some states have that statute, but I don't know about Lefty IL.

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CHRH

12:41 PM EST

Terrible for a guy that was trying to get his life together at 55 yoa. By golly, he had recently written to God, too. That law abiding citizen just took a father from a lot of people by shooting him multiple times. IDK, maybe one who is a father to a lot of people shouldn't be trying to get his life together at such a late stage in the game. That might be the problem, you think?

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Fred25

12:43 PM EST

Funny way to try to get your life together, robbing a bodega with a fake gun.

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72Skins

12:40 PM EST

Ole Reggie was a playa from the Himalaya, trying to be slick with his religious chick, tried to live right couldn't work day or night, couldn't come up with cash the right way," hands up, give it up" is what I'll say, I made the choice alone, now I'm dead and gone.

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Anti_Socialist

12:42 PM EST

I say Reggie got a bad rap.

'Cause that rap you just gave Reggie was really bad.

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72Skins

12:43 PM EST

LOL!!

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callmeBob

12:39 PM EST

You pull the trigger as many times as you need to in order to suppress the threat. This is not hollywood where one perfectly placed shot settles the matter.

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Giedi Prime

12:41 PM EST

WaPo is kind of Hollywood, where we're asked to accept preposterous assertions as if they made sense, however.

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Italian Rose

12:33 PM EST

Robbery is not a capital offense. This is why concealed carry is reckless and dangerous and should be banned nationwide. Also reckless and dangerous is stand your ground and the castle doctrine and they should be banned and the common law common sense duty to flee reimplemented.

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Craig Floyd

12:48 PM EST

rose Criminals are going to carry whether it's legal or not.

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akpat

12:29 PM EST

amazing the number of bleeding hearts blaming the CCW holder. Put the blame and responsibility where it should be. On the back of the robber.

He made his choice and lost.

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healthobserver

12:28 PM EST

So the facts are a bystander with a gun did not shout to the robber, 'Armed citizen, drop the gun' and then shot and killed a man who was 'armed' with a toy gun and who had not actually harmed anyone. Have I got this right?

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akpat

12:30 PM EST

Not really.

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Anti_Socialist

12:30 PM EST

What's your point?

Should the citizen have read his Miranda rights before shooting him?

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Ploo Koon

12:26 PM EST

If only he had used his acting skills and props for good instead of evil....

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Travis Decker

12:25 PM EST

“Something doesn’t seem right,” said Igbinosa Oronsaye, whose mother married Gildersleeve three years ago. “He didn’t deserve to get shot multiple times.”

Yes he did. He most definitely deserved to be shot multiple times.

The people he came in to rob did not deserve to be robbed or fear for their lives.

HE instigated the entire situation. He deserved everything he got.

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akpat

12:27 PM EST

Exactly. The sole responsibility was his.

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Fred25

12:28 PM EST

I wonder if she thought he deserved to get shot once instead of multiple times?

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akpat

12:25 PM EST

Lets face it people in this country are tired of the criminal always seeming to get away with it. That and a catch and release justice system which does not really dispense justice.

In the end your own security is up to you and no one else.

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Anti_Socialist

12:27 PM EST

Per SCOTUS, the police have no obligation to defend your life.

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akpat

12:28 PM EST

Correct. something most dont understand

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John Faden

12:24 PM EST

Can't wait to read the heart-warming bio of the concealed carry shooter, and see Facebook images with him with his arm around his mom, and hearing all about how he always lent a helping hand to his fellow parishioners or something like that.

That's coming next, right WaPo?

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Anti_Socialist

12:28 PM EST

Didn't you just see all that in this article?

Look again; it's mostly there.

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Rack Hunter

12:24 PM EST

The robber didn't "deserve" to die. That was just how things worked out. The idea that the shooter should have shot to wound is ludicrous for safety reasons. Cops don't shoot to wound nor do they shoot to kill. They aim and shoot to: 1) hit their intended target and minimize chance of stray bullets, 2) to stop the person they are shooting. It just so happens that the best place to aim to maximize the chance of hitting the target is center of body mass or the chest. A chest shot also provides the second best place to hit in order to stop the person. (A head shot would be best but more likely to miss.) It just so happens that a chest shot is the second most likely spot to cause death. (Again, a head shot would be best to kill but more likely to miss.)

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Date: November 2nd, 2015 12:51 PM
Author: Donald Trump proudly presenting his signed pardon

"His Facebook page shows him in a suit and tie proudly posing with his wife in one arm and a Bible in the other."

catnip for xo poasters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29093891)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 12:52 PM
Author: Midnight Cowboy (i basically watch jeopardy some nights and cooking shows on pbs)

good kid, didn't do nothing, etc

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Date: November 2nd, 2015 12:52 PM
Author: Donald Trump proudly presenting his signed pardon

deacon nothing, tbf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29093900)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 12:54 PM
Author: Midnight Cowboy (i basically watch jeopardy some nights and cooking shows on pbs)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 12:53 PM
Author: .,.,.,,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,.,.,


lol wtf is this

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/01/21/2E0563E500000578-3299206-image-a-46_1446414204525.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29093908)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 12:59 PM
Author: Metal Up Your Ass

dindu-rag nuffin

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Date: December 24th, 2015 9:43 AM
Author: bowlcut autist



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:00 PM
Author: pepito

i never get how you can get so late in life and STILL think robbery is a viable option in life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29093978)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:09 PM
Author: Get Thee To The Rapery

That photo isn't even recent. If you click to the FB page it has a date stamp of 1/16/2008.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094032)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 12:58 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,....

shitlibs: "but it was Halloween Day!"

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Date: November 2nd, 2015 12:58 PM
Author: Metal Up Your Ass



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:04 PM
Author: donny (Maek America Great Again!)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:08 PM
Author: Antoine de Saint-Exupery



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:18 PM
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Date: October 12th, 2017 1:18 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

He was just slutting it up! Still not asking for it!

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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:01 PM
Author: Madison Twatter

"They show he had been arrested at least half a dozen times dating back to the 1980s. Several arrests had to do with narcotics, but most of the incidents involved theft or robbery."

How the fuck does this math work out?

"at least half a dozen" means >=6

"several" means 3+

"most" means more than half

That's just a weirdly-phrased sentence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29093982)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:02 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,....

It's because the reporter does not want to give the precise facts. It would undercut the narrative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29093991)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 9:36 PM
Author: shortquotemo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29097943)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:24 PM
Author: ..,..,..,...,,,...,..,.,,.,..,.,,


7 arrests, 4 for property crimes and 3 for drugs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094100)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:07 PM
Author: jonnyBlaze

A ROBBERY SUSPECT IS DET

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094015)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:08 PM
Author: hacked214251

benzo fuming

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094021)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:16 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,....

a few of the rhetorical tricks at work there.

1. poison the well: rather than get right to the facts, tease the story and jump to an unrelated case where a shooter recklessly fired at a fleeing shoplifter. for good measure, mention the mentally ill murderer from Oregon.

2. poison the terminology: notice that the shooter "gunned downed" the deceased and the shooter was "toting" a gun. the bad guy was not "toting," only the good guy was.

3. let someone else say it for you, when it helps your narrative but is too stupid to overtly adopt: reporter says that the incident has "raised questions." ok, i'll raise a question: why was the dead guy yet again committing violent crimes and this time creating a realistic appearance of putting the lives of innocents at immediate risk? i'd like an answer to that question.

4. do a variation on the Tax Day schtick: "The incident is all the more mysterious because it occurred on Halloween and involved a man in a mask with a fake gun. Various law enforcement individuals told the Tribune that the gun was either a toy or a paintball gun." clever pun, but there's no "mystery" here. pull out a fake gun to commit a felony and you just might die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094053)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:17 PM
Author: Metal Up Your Ass

b-b-but TAMIR RICE!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094061)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:23 PM
Author: pepito



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094094)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:25 PM
Author: Shitvoters elect Shitliberals, Randy

Well done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094112)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:32 PM
Author: sealclubber



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094147)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:09 PM
Author: Antoine de Saint-Exupery



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094799)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:17 PM
Author: bannondood ( )



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094860)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 9:37 PM
Author: shortquotemo

Well done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29097949)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:18 PM
Author: Get Thee To The Rapery

So is Halloween "Purge Day" now where anything goes because it MIGHT have been a prank? April Fools Day too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094066)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:47 PM
Author: animeboi

Its a traditional part of Urban Black Culture to pull prank robberies, assaults and drive-by's on Halloween. Its one of the few ways African-Americans have to blow off some steam and have some fun in an oppressed, red-lined black urban community filled robberies, assaults and drive-by's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29095077)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 9:38 PM
Author: shortquotemo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29097952)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:19 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,....

jfc. look at this "journalist"'s other articles.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/michael-e-miller

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094071)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:30 PM
Author: (\/)*w*(\/)

This guy and Rachel Feltman are the bane of my Post-reading existence. I habitually check bylines now to make sure none of these "journalists" wrote an article i'm about to read

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094947)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 9:38 PM
Author: shortquotemo

Pro tip: stop reading that shitrag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29097957)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 1:38 PM
Author: Shitvoters elect Shitliberals, Randy

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094182)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:15 PM
Author: hank_scorpio

this is why you can't trust shitlibs, ljl

"he should have been able to wound, then kill"

wtf do they think real life is, a fucking james bond movie?

yes, that is exactly wtf shitlibs think real life is, they are retarded children and we need to subject them to physical violence at every opportunity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094842)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:21 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,....

*adopts shitlib protocols*

*reasonably believes the bad guy is armed and ready to shoot to kill*

*opens fire but tries to do minimal damage and ensure that armed bad guy remains as alive as possible*

*takes five to the chest and heart*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094888)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:22 PM
Author: Lemma Time

Just shoot his hand and he won't be able to shoot the gun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094893)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:26 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,....

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlastingItOutOfTheirHands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094922)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 7:45 PM
Author: Chaebong Hung

To be fair, there are probably some extremely limited circumstances where shooting a gun out of someone's hand is TCR. Obviously not in this case though. One of the more famous examples happened in Columbus, OH when a suicidal dood had his revolver shot by a police sniper. As he was being handcuffed he said "that was a great shot" to the cop bros.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/02/01/columbus-sniper.html

Video: http://youtu.be/BVnwkDbeARw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29097041)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 7:46 PM
Author: hank_scorpio

because it was and a sniper isn't exactly relevant to a defensive shooting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29097051)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 7:47 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,....

cr. some cop sniper who was a military sniper and who had 15 minutes to prep the shot with the best of scopes is not the best measure of what a CCW licensee should do in the heat of a deadly moment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29097052)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 7:57 PM
Author: Chaebong Hung

Yeah, I can't imagine a situation where a CCW shooter would shoot for any reason other than to kill. I feel like most cops nowadays would probably just kill the dude as soon as his barrel was pointed in the general direction of the other cops. Sure, it would be justified, but it's not necessarily the best way to deal with the situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29097120)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:23 PM
Author: hank_scorpio

*activates magic laser arm thingy that goes up, immediately scores precise hits under intense pressure with breathing going through the roof thanks to the assaulty nature of said weaponry*

*accepts nobel price for shooting a guy once in each knee*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094900)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:29 PM
Author: Henry Aaron

tbf, anyone with decent aim could shoot the gun out of his hand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094938)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:47 PM
Author: animeboi

(shitlib who has never fired a gun)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29095086)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 7:37 PM
Author: Chaebong Hung

http://youtu.be/BVnwkDbeARw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29096998)



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Date: November 3rd, 2015 2:46 AM
Author: the challenge of a heterosexual relationship (youtube.com/v/5PUYUjfQew8)

i know, right?

just go into VATS and aim for the weapon. easy peezy!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29099815)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:32 PM
Author: evan39

"Something doesn’t seem right,” said Igbinosa Oronsaye

Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094961)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 7:42 PM
Author: Frank Lloyd Wrong



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29097028)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 9:39 PM
Author: shortquotemo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29097962)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:32 PM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


i don't know why i still get irate reading Wapost or nyt comments, but most of the commenters are fucking insane. if someone is threatening your life, you defend yourself. wtf is so hard to grasp about this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29094966)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:49 PM
Author: LathamTouchedMe

It seems like the vast majority of comments are in favor of the shooter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29095096)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:50 PM
Author: ..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,....

but QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN RAISED.

and a FIERY DEBATE HAS BEEN STOKED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29095105)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 9:40 PM
Author: shortquotemo

(George Soros)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29097963)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 3:50 PM
Author: htt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29095104)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 8:32 PM
Author: lawman8

Time to add another entry to the MSM Narrative Chart?

https://heartiste.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/hivemindnarr.jpg?w=783&h=726

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29097334)



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Date: November 2nd, 2015 9:40 PM
Author: shortquotemo

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29097966)



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Date: November 3rd, 2015 12:10 AM
Author: The Meanest Bannon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29099176)



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Date: November 3rd, 2015 2:39 AM
Author: deus vult

this is objective, neutral reporting?

"The incident is all the more mysterious because it occurred on Halloween and involved a man in a mask with a fake gun."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29099800)



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Date: December 24th, 2015 9:36 AM
Author: Thanks Mario! But our partner is in another castle ( )



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#29445647)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 1:14 PM
Author: Midnight Cowboy

BUMP FOR LIBS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#34425655)



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Date: October 12th, 2017 1:18 PM
Author: libcrusher180 (Puerto Rico Helicopter Service LLC (one way tickets only) )

Libs are against conceal carry because they don't want whites shooting their voters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3033813&forum_id=2#34425695)